{"id":1006,"date":"2023-04-18T22:53:07","date_gmt":"2023-04-19T05:53:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/historic.camera\/?p=1006"},"modified":"2023-04-18T23:03:59","modified_gmt":"2023-04-19T06:03:59","slug":"kodak-technical-pan-super-xx-and-verichrome-pan-films-were-these-better-film-stocks-than-what-we-can-find-today","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/?p=1006","title":{"rendered":"Kodak Technical Pan, Super XX, and Verichrome Pan films &#8211; Were these better film stocks than what we can find today?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I ask my friend Greg why really old expired Kodak Tech Pan film fetches insane prices on eBay and his reply was, &#8220;It&#8217;s God&#8217;s film&#8221;.\u00a0 \u00a0He said that with the right developer, it would provide incredible grainless detail and long smooth tones and that it was better than say the ADOX CMS 20 II film which isn&#8217;t sensitive to all colors like Tech Pan was.\u00a0 \u00a0Greg is the one who also introduced me to Kodak Verichrome Pan which I immediately took to for the beautiful tonality that it can render.\u00a0 \u00a0Unfortunately for me, I&#8217;m very curious by nature, and have spent too much time and money collecting film from all these no longer produced emulsions.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve just recently purchased 10 rolls 120 rolls and 100 sheets of 4&#215;5 in Tech Pan, and a bunch of Verichrome Pan in different formats.\u00a0 \u00a0I also have some of the Adox CMS 20 II in 120 and 4&#215;5 and am interested to compare it to the Technical Pan.\u00a0 \u00a0One problem with the Technical Pan is that the developer for this film called Technidol is also no longer produced.\u00a0 You can find some on eBay but I don&#8217;t know how well it&#8217;s aged.\u00a0 \u00a0As I begin a foray into old film stocks, I&#8217;m adding some articles and blog posts that I&#8217;ve found along the way.<\/p>\n<p>The first is one from Toivonen Photography that shows some images he made with Tech Pan in Technidol both expired. I&#8217;m just sharing one of his images that I think really shows the potential of this film, but check the link to his blog post to see a bunch more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/toivonenphoto.com\/blog\/2020\/12\/28\/tech-pan-in-technidol-lc\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/historic.camera\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/27.jpg?w=640\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Kodak Technical Pan is one of those films that has interested me for decades. I remember reading about it back in 2003-2004 and of it\u2019s extraordinary sharpness and smoothness. But, it was also famous for being difficult to process and having difficult to tame contrast. Last year, in 2020, I managed<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Source: <em><a href=\"https:\/\/toivonenphoto.com\/blog\/2020\/12\/28\/tech-pan-in-technidol-lc\">Tech pan in Technidol LC \u2014 Toivonen photography<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s another blog post on Tech pan, this one from Alex Luyckx, and using both liquid Technidol with Tech Pan and also some results using Pyro as a developer for Tech Pan.  Again I&#8217;ll only post one image, this one taken with TP and developed in Pyro.  There&#8217;s a lot of detail but it seems to me the highlights are lost? Very hard to make any calls on this with so many variables. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Source:<a href=\"http:\/\/www.alexluyckx.com\/blog\/2018\/12\/03\/classic-film-review-kodak-technical-pan\/'\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">http:\/\/www.alexluyckx.com\/blog\/2018\/12\/03\/classic-film-review-kodak-technical-pan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-photo is-provider-flickr wp-block-embed-flickr\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/axle81401\/22793163455\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/live.staticflickr.com\/5811\/22793163455_a4401a03b9_z.jpg?resize=640%2C428&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Downtown JC\" width=\"640\" height=\"428\" \/><\/a>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Alex Luyckx Nikon F5 \u2013 AF-S Nikkor 14-24mm 1:2.8G \u2013 Kodak Tech Pan @ ASA-25 \u2013 PMK Pyro (1+2+100) 11:30 @ 20C<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I ask my friend Greg why really old expired Kodak Tech Pan film fetches insane prices on eBay and his reply was, &#8220;It&#8217;s God&#8217;s film&#8221;.\u00a0 \u00a0He said that with the right developer, it would provide incredible grainless detail and long smooth tones and that it was better than say the ADOX CMS 20 II film which isn&#8217;t sensitive to all colors like Tech Pan was.\u00a0 \u00a0Greg is the one who also introduced me to Kodak Verichrome Pan which I immediately<a class=\"entry-more\" href=\"https:\/\/historic.camera\/?p=1006\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[230,179,488,12,127,298,489,494,289,492,491,490,493],"class_list":["post-1006","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-film","tag-black-and-white","tag-emulsion","tag-extinct","tag-film","tag-kodak","tag-old","tag-out-of-production","tag-pan","tag-stock","tag-super","tag-technical","tag-verichrome","tag-xx"],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1006","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1006"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1006\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1010,"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1006\/revisions\/1010"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1006"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1006"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/historic.camera\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1006"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}